Aaron C-T Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Well normally I would say "right," but this is a reboot. So they've started over with everything fresh. None of the older games really matter anymore. "wait, what if that new hedgehog is the Iblis that Sonic "accidently" triggers?" ::gasp:: Plot twist. I'd like to say that.. if anyone somehow DOES find out leaked information about the game. Do NOT tell us what the final beast will be or anything. Just figured that needed saying. People tend to randomly just type things or go "spoilerhedies" and then I end up reading it and wanting to strangle you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Well...that fire beast is in a level set in the future i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckythemutant Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 We all know Sonic Next is going to rock hard tasty abs, so we should all focus on Wildfire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimensionWarped Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 That certainly is a wild fire. but this is a reboot. So they've started over with everything fresh. We hope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheonix Gamma Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Basically, Silver thinks Sonic is the Illibis Trigger, which hie isn't. Silver wants to kill SOnic so he won't go and kill a bunch of other people (from what I've heard in a magazine, it SOUNDS like SIlver is teh time traveller. Don't take my word on that, though) The Illibis Trigger is the thing that will kill millions, which is the fire dude. I got the story thinger from Redsonic's scan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraysor Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 I preferred Chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheonix Gamma Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Actually, Chaos would be better suit, like Scatta said. PC was huge in Station Square, and that ws ust from sewage and junk. PC in Sollenia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 PC in Sollenia? It's pretty much ownage. Unless you get Super Shadow and Super Sonic and Super everyone. Or if they bring back the Hypers, that would make me so happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted August 13, 2006 Report Share Posted August 13, 2006 Has it been confirmed that the series is going to reboot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheonix Gamma Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 SEGA said they want it "back to its roots". Wiether or not that includes a reboot is up in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ila Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 That could mean any ____. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraysor Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Yeah. The game's only a few months away anyway. Seeing as it's supposed to be a PS3 launch title, that puts it at mid November. Hopefully that means it'll get a simultaneous 360 release... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 hopeso. and i hope the ps3 version doesnt get any extras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersheys Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 People, we don't know if that fire beast may be the Iblis. To me, it looks like an early boss,and, you don't think SEGA would reveal who the Iblis would be, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraysor Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 Early boss? It looks more like the destroyer of worlds than a crappy sub-boss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheonix Gamma Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 ::agrees with Eraysor:: random sonic-ness: http://kotaku.com/gaming/business/whats-wrong-with-this-sonic-193907.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 SEGA said they want it "back to its roots". ...and somehow you guys translated that to "We're rebooting the series?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shadix Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 ::agrees with Eraysor::random sonic-ness: http://kotaku.com/gaming/business/whats-wrong-with-this-sonic-193907.php That picture makes me roffle. Which one is Silver and which is Shadow. http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/2006/08/spot-deliberate-mistakes.html#comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron C-T Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 "...and somehow you guys translated that to 'We're rebooting the series?'" Erm.. no. I'm saying it's a reboot because the story is incredibly underwraps, we haven't see anything more than the first 2 or so levels, we don't know anything about Sonic/Shadow/Silver, we have no idea where the rest of the cast is (Tails, Knuckles, Amy?), and the setting is completely different and unlike the last two games in the series. It seems like a reboot to me. If it wasn't I don't see why the devs can't simply say "Shadow's story continues after StH/Heroes" or something along those lines. Yet they haven't. Also, if this is canon it would have to be set into the future, which would be the first time the characters actually aged (you can't say "two years after Heroes" as then pretend that no one's aged). So no, it's not just the "back to roots" comment. Do you not find it odd that we knew what Shadow the Hedgeog was going to be about before it came out, what other characters would be in, all about the new characters, etc... yet that isn't the case here. In a game that's supposed to be "reimagining" the series, and totally redesigning it. That in combination with the the fact that it's being treated differently than for a normal Sonic team game causes me to think that this is a reboot, and as such that is what I refer to it as. Granted that may not be the case, but who's to say it's not a reboot either, at least I have some sort of reasoning for thinking so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimensionWarped Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I concur with Scattaz. None of us know what the story is right now for certain, but from the way things are, it seems almost impossible for the story to mix with the current continuity. On the other hand, it isn't as though they have never thrown us a screwball before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraysor Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 ...Sonic has never had 'continuity'. I honestly don't understand why people care about the storylines of the newer Sonic games when Sega obviously doesn't try to make them important. I mean, we're not talking about Final Fantasy here. It's just a vehicle for the gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimensionWarped Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 I'm sure thats why they had a cutscene budget for Sonic Heroes which probably outweighed that of the rest of the development. It's not really that anyone cares about the story, it's more to the point that people don't want something so laughably retarded as "Shadow is an alien, Sonic has the real super power of Team Work, and The more the merrier!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron C-T Posted August 14, 2006 Report Share Posted August 14, 2006 "...Sonic has never had 'continuity'." ... Haha. What about Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles. There was obviously no sort of relation between those two games. "I honestly don't understand why people care about the storylines of the newer Sonic games when Sega obviously doesn't try to make them important. I mean, we're not talking about Final Fantasy here." Maybe that's the problem. This is no Final Fantasy. Square Enix takes their game ideas (well, from what I've seen with Kingdom Hearts and FFX) into their loving, caring, almost mother-like hands and sculpts it until they have something that no one else could've done the same way. Prime example being Kingdom Hearts, had Disney been in control of the majority of that it wouldn't have been a quarter as good as it was. Maybe that's the goddamned problem. Like I said, sure the oldschool games didn't really have "story" persay, but there WAS some form of continuity that flowed between the games. Why can't that be done again? It's obviously not impossible, as it's been done before. Sonic Adventure was awesome, there were opportunities for continuity there- various things that could've been expanded on, but they weren't. I've no idea why, but maybe that's the problem. Perhaps if they took time to really sit down and write out a story for Sonic Next that was really, honestly inspired by the oldschool games we'd have that "Final Fantasy of a Sonic game" that, were this really a reboot, revived the series by giving it some form of continuity and actually gave two ____s for character development we'd actually be somewhere. I'm sure that if Sonic Team felt they were delivering something that was somehow epic or that had a story that was actually a work of art not just a jumbling of "cool" scenarios thrown together they'd have a new energy to put forth a good game. No director wants to deal with making a movie off of a bullcrap story, and it's the same for gaming. The lot of you say that you don't want a story in Sonic games, but I'm pretty sure if someone had the sense to come up with something that was so completely out of left field- something that was totally awesome, yet didn't make you go "what the heck is Sonic doing, this isn't a Sonic game at all"- you wouldn't complain. Naturally when you're given "I r teh bettar hedgehog" you don't really care, but if something truely unique and colorful was written that really put some energy and spirit back into the games you wouldn't mind. Seems very odd that the majority of us here seem to think S3&K was like.. the prime of Sonic. Hmm.. or maybe Sonic 3 and Sonic and Knuckles had nothing to do with each other at all and I'm thinking of the Death Star. Your call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimensionWarped Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 Thats a very good point Scatta... if SEGA fails in respecting their franchise, it shows effervescently in their failure to respect their story. A lack of effort in one category reflects a lack of effort at every aspect of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheonix Gamma Posted August 15, 2006 Report Share Posted August 15, 2006 But, SEGA's addressing complaints. Sounds to me like they are respecting the franchise. They Got rid of hunting and shooting in Heroes, but left all the characters in cause people have their favorites, so they created the 3 team system instead of a bunch of separate stories. Then people said Sonic was best when he was old school, so now they're at least trying to bring it back to it's roots. The effort is there. Sure, Shadow the Hedgehog was the Poochie of the series, but now it looks like it's back to business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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