1LT Worm Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I'd much rather play Rael's RAGE entry than play this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron C-T Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 ITT Worm keeps it real, yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 As far as the parallax layers- they're clearly paper thin on purpose. Why would they choose to make the parallax layers paper thin and completely unrealistic looking while they're using realistic 3D graphics? It's ugly whether it was done on purpose or not. edit: also ilu worm <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron C-T Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 The background layers are flat because they're designed to look like the parallax from the old games- essentially planes. From my understanding- it occurs naturally in any 3D environment. So clearly the decision to even have layers means it was on purpose, and if they weren't going for that look, wouldn't they have just straight-up modeled the background and let nature take care of itself? You think it's ugly- which doesn't change the fact that the decision was made. I, on the other hand, think it looks fine in motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Parallax in real life and parallax in the old 2D games are completely different. In the old 2D games, backgrounds are divided into pieces that move separately as Sonic moves to give perception of distance. In real life, parallax isn't divided into layers. You're essentially seeing the objects differently because your position according to them is different. And every inch of the landscape you're looking at as you walk will look a little different as you walk past it (ie not huge parallax pieces) because the objects are not only going behind you, their angle is also changing so you're seeing them from one side to the other. The gif you posted illustrates my point exactly. The shapes aren't flat, they're 3D and you start of seeing one side of them when they're on the right and see the other side when they're on the left. That's the nature of parallax. Now, using the old 2D method is fine if the graphic style works with it, but if they're using that realistic 3D look but they're still making it paper thin, it just looks weird. I see that they're trying to make it a cool genesis throwback, but the 3D graphics accentuate the flat paper thin distinctly divided parallax pieces. You just can't mix the two that way. The parallax layers in the genesis games were never so noticeably distinct. If they wanted a real genesis throwback, they should've gone back to a more cartoony style, but I'm sure they wouldn't risk turning off the new age fans with it. Besides the home attack and possibly awkward looking physics, the art style is my biggest issue with this game. And I don't know if I've said it already, but the colors are so dull. I miss the bright, colorful, vibrant levels that the genesis games had. Also, I have a problem with this sentence: You think it's ugly- which doesn't change the fact that the decision was made. Are you really saying I think that by calling it ugly I can somehow change the fact that the decision was made? I don't know why you'd even say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klonoa Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 My reaction to watching this "trailer" of this hyped game with only two seconds of gameplay footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 rofl yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asuma Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I think I can top that. [img[http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/Sodisna/mplayerc2010-02-0501-12-39-23.png[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowgoten Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 time for me to never look at this thread for another few months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron C-T Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Is this all the info that's going to be released? There were only two of these "community events", right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ristar Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 it looks alright dunnit? i'm looking forward to it, i'll most definitely end up buying because i'm still a little fanboy inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Rat Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I think I already explained this. Robot thing only peers out of the junk heap when you don't get every emerald in Sonic and Knuckles/S3K. Actually, when you play as Sonic in S&K, Robotnik appears laughing next to the Master Emerald if you don't get all the Chaos Emeralds. If you do get them all, the Egg Robo appears out of the ruins, and then, when you play as Knuckles you can see that all the boss fights are against Egg Robo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Luckily, us 360-ians can try a demo when it comes out. But anyways, to me, the game looks alright to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candescence Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Real, you sum up my thoughts perfectly. The visuals, for the most part, look hideous. Also, they don't have much time to fix this. This game is supposed to be out in JULY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asuma Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 I'm sure the clips are from old builds. I don't think even Sega is that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Napalm Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Sega? Stupid? Noooooo really? Anyway, 5 seconds of footage means nothing at all. In fact until people get to play the game you can't make a proper judgement. Far too many made that mistake with S2K6 and Unleashed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimensionWarped Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Actually, when you play as Sonic in S&K, Robotnik appears laughing next to the Master Emerald if you don't get all the Chaos Emeralds. If you do get them all, the Egg Robo appears out of the ruins, and then, when you play as Knuckles you can see that all the boss fights are against Egg Robo. Since the game was meant to be played locked on, you have to go with the ending to the game at a hundred percent completion when they are locked on. Especially since the emeralds appearance changed permanently in that game. Neither is legit. Though, to be fair, Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles didn't stand around a Sonic 3 and Knuckles logo making inane gestures at one another either. The way I understood it way back when was that Robotnik was simply using Egg Robo to keep up the illusion that he wasn't the one dicking up Angel Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epon Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 lol www.sonicthehedgehog4.com thru www.sonicthehedgehog10.com are all registered to the same site. I'm tempted to buy www.sonicthehedgehog11.com just to spite them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ila Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 You take 11 and I'll take 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoshaman Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 look like the sonic cycle is wide in the second part, still undecided whether to balance into good or bad... we need more gameplay footage and more hands on to break the cycle completely. Look decent so far BUT hardly exciting. Some friend trick me with a video of SONIC XG ( ) saying sega is doing Sonic 4 RIGHT! Googling for more i have seen the real footage... When an official game look less awesome and inoovative than a fangame, you know... Hope they quit with QTE like gameplay, bottomless pit, blind into depth run, stupid "best branching path", dull cinematic speed corridor... They still have many way to fuck the level design, even trying to return to the basics. Wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheonix Gamma Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Apparently Sega stated that Sonic's animation is weird because that's not him running at top speed. He goes faster. That was just his walking animation. ... I'm gonna be holding Right a lot, aren't I? It's gonna be Sonic Advance 2.5, isn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ristar Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 I think they'll reboot Alex Kidd soon. Does anyone else find it weird when they see the title "Sonic the Hedgehog 4 Thread" and realise it's actually something official? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slingerland Posted February 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Apparently Sega stated that Sonic's animation is weird because that's not him running at top speed. He goes faster. That was just his walking animation. Link me to this statement. I need to read it to believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverbounD Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Referring to his animation under featured at sonic4.com Ug... I just hate Sonic spikes that way he looks like a top heavy woman backwards. As if his spikes would be so heaving he should fall over backwards trying to carry them. Sonic needs spike reduction surgery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luksamuk Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Okay, let's see... First about the Homing Attack. Doesn't look like it's gonna be like the next-generation. Do you remember Sonic Advance 2's Homing Attack? Couldn't it be like this? And also, you REALLY THINK that SEGA never sees what's being done with its mascot? I mean, if they're putting homing attack here, might be because MOST PART OF THE FANGAMES HAVE THIS MOVE. Talking about Soni's model... C'mon, guys, since Yuji Naka went off of SEGA, they never drawed Sonic wery well again. Don't expect the complete return of the Classic Sonic from the root. And about the "Only Sonic" adventure... EPIC FAIL. Damn, from S3&K's story, I suppose that Knuckles is living again in Angel Island and is just outta the story. BUT NOT TAILS. DANG, TAILS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE LIKE HE WAS: Following Sonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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