Sonic Lost World General Discussion

[MykonosFan]

I'm just amazed no one has posted it yet. From the Facebook page:

 

 

Six will rise from the Lost World. Are they friends or foes? Find out on May 29th.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151597278867418&set=a.406270927417.185036.23050342417&type=1&theater

[Stritix]

A debut trailer has been released. New gameplay has indeed been introduced.

 

[MykonosFan]

Looks awesome. Can't wait to play it. 

[MTwinny]

Is that parkour I see there?

And now to repeat the tweets I've said on this cuz laziness:

"@TheMTwinny: And did I see...NO BOOSTING? Maybe. #SonicLostWorld"

"@TheMTwinny: @DarkstarIzzy99 I hope the boost isn't that needed. From the trailer, it sure as hell didn't need to rely on it."

"@TheMTwinny: That trailer showed SEGA and Sonic Team are revamping the "modernized" Sonic style of gameplay, and I liked that. #SonicLostWorld"
 

"@TheMTwinny: Those six creatures look sooo colorful yet...deadly. #SeeWhatIDidThere #SonicLostWorld"

 

However, I'm not the type of person to buy a console with a hefty price just for one game. For a few yes, but not just one.

And yes, that does look like Sonic-Xtreme in HD with Sonic Colors and Super Mario Galaxy. DONE RIGHT I HOPE.

[A.T.]

There are 6 guardians of each 6 sections on the "Lost World" which would be a good way to describe it as "Worlds" as it is in the title. 

 

My guess is that the guardians are -

Ice 
Fire / Lava
Sand / Desert

Water

Forest / Grass

Ground / Earth

 styles

 

Now everything I am stating is just my own hypothesis and I have no idea how accurate I am nor have I done any research because in my opinion this looks like another garbage spin off with only Sonic and Tails as main characters....

[MTwinny]

There are 6 guardians of each 6 sections on the "Lost World" which would be a good way to describe it as "Worlds" as it is in the title. 

 

My guess is that the guardians are -

Ice 

Fire / Lava

Sand / Desert

Water

Forest / Grass

Ground / Earth

 styles

 

Now everything I am stating is just my own hypothesis and I have no idea how accurate I am nor have I done any research because in my opinion this looks like another garbage spin off with only Sonic and Tails as main characters....

 

Safe to say they're known as the "Deadly Six" now.

[Chex]

It looks pretty terrible to me. The graphics look worse than Colors and it's yet another nostalgia-fest.

[Stritix]

Wisps from Sonic Colors are making a return in some form.
 
http://sonicredux.com/2013/05/28/wisps-making-a-return-in-sonic-lost-world/
 

The wisps from Sonic Colors will be making a return in Sonic Lost World. A few clever users managed to spot a Cyan wisp capsule and connected crystals for said wisp in the debut trailer.

 

You can view still shots from the trailer displaying these findings below.

 

 

[Heinous Creature]

Gameplay is not particularly exciting. Seems like a clusterfuck effort yet again to appeal to nostalgia.

Level design has the potential to be interesting, but Green Hill version 1,000,000 was somewhat boring.

Villain designs are unbelievably atrocious and make me want to throw up. 

Aesthetics are decent, although the graphical quality is worse than in Generations.

 

So, yeah. I'm not one to buy into a system for any one great game either, never mind one that looks mediocre. I'll of course wait on more gameplay and information to make my final judgment, but I'm not particularly optimistic at this point.

[Clouder]

SEGA

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm getting a Wii U for sure now.

[Clouder]

And also, there's some gameplay news:

• The Spin Dash is back! Rejoice!
• Part of the gameplay will be a mixture of Super Mario Galaxy-esque gameplay with scraps of Sonic X-Treme
• The Deadly Six will also serve as comic relief
• The story also will be taking the cliche Sega route: Eggman finds some things/people to help him and they turn on him. Yep. *breaks down crying* WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN?

Source: Sonic News Network and IGN

Edited May 29, 2013 by DaHog

[A.T.]

And also, there's some gameplay news:

• The Spin Dash is back! Rejoice!
• Part of the gameplay will be a mixture of Super Mario Galaxy-esque gameplay with scraps of Sonic X-Treme
• The Deadly Six will also serve as comic relief
• The story also will be taking the cliche Sega route: Eggman finds some things/people to help him and they turn on him. Yep. *breaks down crying* WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN?

Source: Sonic News Network and IGN

 

Sounds terrible...how can this appeal to anyone.

The Deadly Six looks like its for some 3 year old monster cartoon show.... 

 

This game completely changed the route for sonic.

[MykonosFan]

Here's the full IGN preview:

 

Despite its legendary 20-plus year legacy, the Sonic the Hedgehog series has struggled to maintain a consistent track record when it comes to quality. SEGA, in an effort to find a successful formula, has experimented time and time again, moving from the series’ 2D roots to outlandish concepts involving werewolves to 3D adventures and back again. Success seemed to elude Sonic Team repeatedly… until recently.

Although several Sonic games of the past decade have struggled in numerous ways, some of the more recent entries, including Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations, have been on the right track. They've been fun, and started to grapple with the fact that 3D and 2D adventures must be accommodated in unique ways. Generations even went so far as to take the same levels and approach them from both perspectives. With Sonic: Lost World, the Sonic Team is taking that design concept to the next step, blending 3D and 2D mechanics in abstract levels that more than resemble another Nintendo exclusive – Super Mario Galaxy. Derivative gameplay is sometimes frowned upon in this industry, but in the case of Lost World, this is more than welcome, and more than necessary. The development team has now been freed to think of gameplay first and worldly concepts second, and that can only mean good things for the final product.

 

I recently had time to watch three levels of Sonic: Lost World, and the changes being made to the franchise range from entirely obvious to remarkably subtle. First and foremost – the game’s aforementioned larger design approach, and the necessary control alterations that followed.

“We wanted to create an all-new design for 3D Sonic games with Sonic: Lost World,” producer Takashi Iizuka told me via e-mail. “Ever since the first day of development, we were focused on creating new and unique levels to best fit this new style.”

That ‘style’ basically removes Sonic from the constraints of a cohesive, grounded world design. Instead, players will find themselves twisting, turning and jumping along floating constructs suspended in mid-air. Levels are now informed by gameplay needs, with some stages focusing on slower speeds with more platforming, and others pushing players to run as fast as possible. Aesthetic ideas are now more free, ranging from the more idyllic, grassy settings of Wind Hill to something like Desert Ruins 1, which consists of cakes, cookies, donuts and all manners of candy. And just to throw a curveball, Desert Ruins 2 drops the sweets theme entirely, and features an entirely different gameplay style, opting for the ‘tunnel racing’ concept that Sonic games have used for decades. Of course, all of this works within Sonic’s typical level designs, which feature a wide range of branching paths and exploration options.

More critically, it appears as though Sonic Team has realized that many of the core ideas from games like Sonic Generations and Sonic Colors can co-exist. 2D and 3D don’t have to be isolated so long as they’re incorporated in the proper manner. They can coexist in whatever state Sonic Team wants, allowing for levels that are 2D and 3D hybrids to varying degrees. Speed can also not only be about tunnel-based obstacle avoidance, but the crazier, twistier constructs that first appeared in the Sonic Adventure series. All of this can work together. It’s a remarkably simple realization for the series, but all indications seem to be that it works marvelously, particularly now that Sonic’s controls have been adjusted to accommodate those ideas.

“Exhilarating and dynamic speed can sometimes conflict with [intuitive] controls, so we're constantly trying to improve the balance between the two,” Iizuka said, noting that improving control in this game was “of the utmost importance” to the team. Two key ideas were born of this focus – being able to control Sonic’s speed, and a ‘Parkour system’ that allows players to automatically accommodate basic obstacles when he’s running.

As mentioned, Sonic Team’s greatest challenge was maintaining a sense of speed for the series while finding controls that made sense. The result is now that, by default, Sonic doesn’t burst off with a tilt of the analog stick. He walks – until you use one of the GamePad’s triggers to engage his running speed. This too is actually not full speed. Holding down the second trigger will pull Sonic into a ball, giving him access to his full momentum, which Iizuka likened to the ‘Boost speed’ from previous titles. By creating a tiered structure to movement, Sonic Team is hoping players will be able to navigate the wide range of level designs, exploring and running as necessary.

That’s also where the Parkour system comes into play. “In previous 3D Sonic games, even if you're running through a level at top speed, if you hit an obstacle you stop instantly,” Iizuka explained. “To avoid this, we added a new action to keep Sonic running, even when you hit an obstacle. To make sure it only happens when you want it to, it's triggered by the player holding the run button.” Like any game, automating actions brings a certain risk, but doing nothing means Sonic games continue to run into a brick wall – literally in the case of gameplay.

Of course, there’s also the small matter of Lost World being a Wii U (and 3DS) exclusive. On Wii U, the GamePad is specifically used to activate various Whisp-based “Color Powers,” which feature touch-based controls and are mostly used to gain access to side paths and areas. The GamePad will also play a role in ‘Support Mode,’ which allows one player to use Wii Remote and Nunchuk to assist a second player who is already controlling Sonic with the Wii U GamePad. Speaking of playing as Sonic, while the iconic hedgehog is the only character players will directly control, friends such as Tails, Knuckles and Amy will make appearances in the story.

The story itself is, as you’d expect, remarkably simple. Sonic is chasing his longtime foe, Eggman, and encounters a mysterious floating island known as “Lost Hex.” It’s here where Sonic will run across the “Deadly Six” that SEGA has already teased, and Iizuka noted these foes will bring a “sense of danger and humor” to the story.

All of this and there are still a wide range of smaller details that will certainly please long-time Sonic fans. Some factor directly into game mechanics, such as the fact that Sonic will once again save animals throughout levels. Rescuing these critters will not only be tracked level by level, but cumulatively, and will factor into unlockable content. And then there are more subtle things, such as the animation for Sonic’s running or the presence of Red Star Rings (collected for unlockable content) and gold cannons (which access hidden paths). For every adjustment to the legacy, there is a similar tribute to it, and that acknowledgement is great to see.

There’s plenty we don’t know about Lost World. The precise world and level structure remains a bit elusive. The size of the game. The nature of the bosses. However the biggest question mark of all is the 3DS version of the game. We know it will incorporate full 3D levels similar to the Wii U game, but the scale or design of these remains to be seen. There’s also the significant fact that we haven’t played this game. Its control and level design adjustments certainly seem to step in the right direction… but will they result in fun gameplay? We’ll find out. E3 2013 is just around the corner – and Sonic: Lost World will be there.

I dunno guys. This just keeps sounding better and better to me.

[Lamor]

Game looks fantastic but..... IT'S A WII U EXCLUSIVE! It pisses me off that I won't be able to try this game out.

 

Also did you guys hear that next three sonic games (including this one) are going to be Nintendo's exclusives? Let me repeat. Three. THREE.

 

Edited May 30, 2013 by Lamor

[Abominal Taz]

Game looks fantastic but..... IT'S A WII U EXCLUSIVE! It pisses me off that I won't be able to try this game out.

 

Also did you guys hear that next three sonic games (including this one) are going to be Nintendo's exclusives? Let me repeat. Three. THREE.

 

Well there's also the 3DS route if you own one of those...

[MTwinny]

Reading the last few posts I see some people are doubting the game already.

Already knew about the three game deal (when the game was first announced btw), which will all arrive within this year apparently. So don't worry you'll get your multiconsole Sonic fix next year.

 

Luckly I have a 3DS so I'm good. Just glad there's not a trickle of "dimps" from the info on that version.

 

But I do worry the hype for this game will backfire, thus it may end up being another Sonic 2006.

[lone8643]

While I'm glad to see Sonic X-treme return in some form, I feel it's already too late for that concept to be revived in modern form. Project AXSX all the way!

 

I saw the monsters. "Looks stupid...(well not stupid, but a non-PC term)" 

I'm pulling histrionics here. Where's the damn robots and Dr. Robotnik? Stupid sinister six crap and mario galaxy platforming. SMG1/2 were terrible games! No replayability whatsoever! Too linear! Don't mess this up Segtendo!

[Lamor]

Well there's also the 3DS route if you own one of those...

 

I sadly don't :/

[Abominal Taz]

I sadly don't :/

Oh. Well I don't blame you. I might not be able to get to play it right away either.

[MTwinny]

I saw the monsters. "Looks stupid...(well not stupid, but a non-PC term)" 

 

I think they look alright. Fits the feel of the way it looks.

 

I'm pulling histrionics here. Where's the damn robots and Dr. Robotnik?

 I take it you never read the game's plot then?

 

Stupid sinister six crap and mario galaxy platforming. SMG1/2 were terrible games! No replayability whatsoever! Too linear! Don't mess this up Segtendo!

 

Sounds like you hating on the game already because it's not suiting your needs?

[Clouder]

While I'm glad to see Sonic X-treme return in some form, I feel it's already too late for that concept to be revived in modern form. Project AXSX all the way!

 

I saw the monsters. "Looks stupid...(well not stupid, but a non-PC term)" 

I'm pulling histrionics here. Where's the damn robots and Dr. Robotnik? Stupid sinister six crap and mario galaxy platforming. SMG1/2 were terrible games! No replayability whatsoever! Too linear! Don't mess this up Segtendo!

[lone8643]

I just want a damn sonic game, y'know? Not a bunch of dinosaurs terrorizing San Francisco but pretending to be monsters. I mean, I know San Francisco is known for its crazy steep roads, but this game is pushing it. 

[Heinous Creature]

@MTwinny: Problem is, main series Sonic titles generally release in two year intervals, meaning that, even if all three exclusive titles release this year, it is likely that Microsoft and Sony consoles will still be required to wait at least two years before seeing a Sonic release.

[MTwinny]

@MTwinny: Problem is, main series Sonic titles generally release in two year intervals, meaning that, even if all three exclusive titles release this year, it is likely that Microsoft and Sony consoles will still be required to wait at least two years before seeing a Sonic release.

Well if we are talking new generation cosoles, then SEGA and Microsoft to me isn't a good thing. Mircosoft screwed SEGA up when it rushed Sonic Team to put out Sonic 2006 just for the holiday season.

 

I just want a damn sonic game, y'know? Not a bunch of dinosaurs terrorizing San Francisco but pretending to be monsters. I mean, I know San Francisco is known for its crazy steep roads, but this game is pushing it.

 

 

Then what kind of Sonic game do you want?

 

Edited May 31, 2013 by MTwinny

[Stritix]

I'm mostly looking forward to this game, but the "automatically avoid small obstacles" feature has concerned me. I'm not a fan of that kind of automation. Hopefully it works well enough.

 

Mircosoft screwed SEGA up when it rushed Sonic Team to put out Sonic 2006 just for the holiday season.

 
Interesting. Do you have any sources for this? I've heard it being mentioned a few times, but I haven't heard much else.