sonicyoda Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 I like where this is going. Like some of the others above, the only real issue I have is with the gold sheild. Instead of have it pull Sonic down when there is nothing to home into, why not have him 'thwok' forward like in Sonic Robo Blast 2? Also, the range in which you can home in on enemies needs to be greater. Otherwise all the other sheilds function great, the engine is brilliant (as it should be seing as you're using Sonic Worlds) and what little graphics there are look good. Also, the Sonic sprite set you are using rocks. Can we have a full stage next demo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikocho Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 I bring you all an update bump! Why? this is why... It may not look like much, but it's still the hardest thing I'm doing by myself so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Emerald Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 That looks fantastic, MCKaosu! So how are building those levels? Are you doing it with 16x16 tiles (like I am), or are you building it in large chunks? Also, if you want to get the Tails life icon to stop appearing, just move it to a different animation sequence, and when you start using Tails in the game, you can tell the program to go to that animation sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikocho Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 That looks fantastic, MCKaosu! So how are building those levels? Are you doing it with 16x16 tiles (like I am), or are you building it in large chunks?Also, if you want to get the Tails life icon to stop appearing, just move it to a different animation sequence, and when you start using Tails in the game, you can tell the program to go to that animation sequence. Yeah, I figured I'd make the bits in bug chunks, saves a little time, but takes more effort. And I just kept the icon like that because I'm doing the hud and such for last. I just hope I can get all the tiles done before sage starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 That's freakin' awesome, dude. I love the CD look you gave the checkers... it's like combining Green Hill and Palmtree Panic. It looks fantastic. If I were you, I'd make the dust from the spindash less colorless though.. maybe even a white color would look better than that dull beige color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 That looks fantastic, MCKaosu! So how are building those levels? Are you doing it with 16x16 tiles (like I am), or are you building it in large chunks? Dude... you should NOT be using 16x16 tiles to build levels. Use those 16x16 tiles to make 64x64 tiles, 128x128 tiles, etc. and then use THOSE to make the level. It'll save you so much effort in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felik Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Dude... you should NOT be using 16x16 tiles to build levels. Use those 16x16 tiles to make 64x64 tiles, 128x128 tiles, etc. and then use THOSE to make the level. It'll save you so much effort in the long run. Using 16x16 tiles is not such a time waste since you can use copy-paste. Level that I am making currently consists of 16x16 tiles and it's not difficuilt to build it. Small tiles add flexibility and you can make more combinations using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimensionWarped Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 No, using 16x16 tiles is the wrong freakin' answer. It'll cause you nothing but grief and lag in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felik Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 No, using 16x16 tiles is the wrong freakin' answer. It'll cause you nothing but grief and lag in the end. Ok, maybe 16x16 tiles are bad (I haven't made a full level using them yet). But I've made a level that consists of 32x32 tiles and I have no lag with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Taxman Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 No, using 16x16 tiles is the wrong freakin' answer. It'll cause you nothing but grief and lag in the end. I'd disagree, but then I realized we're talking about MMF2 here I'd say go for larger tiles for the most part, and use a light sprinking of small ones where it's really needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimensionWarped Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Yeah, in MMF having a ton of little tiles can cause extremely huge performance hits. It probably has something to do with the fact that they aren't set to any kind of grid and can overlap and what have you. Brad and I discovered that issue first hand while dealing with PPZ back on the old engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Using 16x16 tiles is not such a time waste since you can use copy-paste.Level that I am making currently consists of 16x16 tiles and it's not difficuilt to build it. Small tiles add flexibility and you can make more combinations using them. Make a bunch of 128x128 tiles and you won't have to worry about not having enough variety. Anyone who makes an entire level using 16x16 will end up spending more time arranging the tiles to look good than actually designing the level. Make a ton of 128x128 tiles first and it'll make everything so much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Emerald Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 Anyone who makes an entire level using 16x16 will end up spending more time arranging the tiles to look good than actually designing the level. Make a ton of 128x128 tiles first and it'll make everything so much easier. *raises hand* Guilty. Thank you for the helpful tips, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikocho Posted April 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 More screenies with graphical changes! I think I better stop with the screen shots until I get the full level done. Then I can make a video if I can get my screen recorder going again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Emerald Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Looking good. I really like those curves in the checkered floor; it has a very Palmtree Panic ring to it, even though it's original. By the way, does the water animate at all? I just noticed that the small glimmers in the water are in a uniform position to the mountains in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikocho Posted April 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Looking good. I really like those curves in the checkered floor; it has a very Palmtree Panic ring to it, even though it's original. By the way, does the water animate at all? I just noticed that the small glimmers in the water are in a uniform position to the mountains in the background. If glimmering water was possible in MMF, it would be, but I have to say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felik Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 If glimmering water was possible in MMF, it would be, but I have to say no. That is actually possible since you can make semitransparent background system boxes. Edit: Oh wait, i don't fully understand what king of effect do you want to make. Could you please show an example? I'm almost sure that it would be possible to realize in MMF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikocho Posted April 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 That is actually possible since you can make semitransparent background system boxes.Edit: Oh wait, i don't fully understand what king of effect do you want to make. Could you please show an example? I'm almost sure that it would be possible to realize in MMF. If you know Azure Lake from sonic 3 Multiplayer mode, that's the only ripple effect in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Emerald Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Well, I know Hez was able to pull off animated backgrounds in his game. I think that, in order to get the moving ripples to work, it would need to be programmed differently from how it's programmed in the parallax system you're using now. It'd require the background layer to be an active object, not following the frame, and it'd probably need to be programmed something like this: When Camera moves # in the X direction, move layer -# in the X direction. As for getting it to wrap flawlessly without using the background system, that's another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damizean Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 You can always use the distortion object to get the parallax distortion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aikocho Posted May 1, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 You can always use the distortion object to get the parallax distortion... I don't know if I have that object. I'd say point me to it, but that would be a wirez request, wouldn't it? =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Uh, it's not illegal to download an extension if you bought MMF2... Just go to clickteam.com . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felik Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 If you know Azure Lake from sonic 3 Multiplayer mode, that's the only ripple effect in the game. It's pretty simple. First of all you should create sprites of distorting water. Then you should create as many BG Sys boxes as many sprites you have. And just change their visibility so that only one of them would be seen at single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Emerald Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 It's pretty simple. First of all you should create sprites of distorting water. Then you should create as many BG Sys boxes as many sprites you have.And just change their visibility so that only one of them would be seen at single time. So, in other words, it's like a flip-book effect. That is a great trick; I can't believe I didn't think of that before. Yeah, if you just do that with the water ripples, it'll look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiabloHedgehog Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 There has been a trick since MMF1 to do real time ripples but it takes a lot of cpu, and no extensions required. I used it for head haze in Nakiti Generations (if anyone remembers that) Make an object like a dust cloud but make it 100% transparent, apply the built in MMF AA for active objects and all edges to that smoke sprite will distort. Just don't expect a 320x240 fullscreen sprite to not slow your game down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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