sonicdude3 Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Yea, weird topic title huh? So if you did not see my topic in fangame assistance, I am trying (yet agian) to create a 2D shooter/platformer. Now your probably asking, "Why are you so stupid?" well because I am so deal with it. I always thought it would be fun to make a Sonic and Dinosaur cross over. This thread is to discuss updates, ideas, help, and possibly even recruit a team to develop together. Before you post, please know I could care less if you don't like the idea. I am not going to be a game developer or anything. I just wanted to have some fun and finish a fan game for once. I have started this project about 10 times and I really want to finish it. So please, don't just come in here to bash go somewhere else for that. I don't mind critique, but just insults need to stay out of this topic. The story is not 100% yet, but the basic story goes as so: Sonic and Tails are in the tornado finishing a battle with Dr. Robotnik. They succeed and it almost seems like its the end of a game more than a beginning. As they fly home, a storm hits and the wind is too strong and Sonic is whooshed off the wing and into the water. He awakes on the beach of a strange island, and from there he enters only to find (you guessed it) dinosaurs. The control's are as follows: W,A,S,D: Walk Space: Jump Left click: Fire I don't have too much done besides basic walking, but I am in the process of ripping sprites and backgrounds. What I really could use, is some AI for the Dinosaurs. Just simple attacking the player. If anyone could help me I would really appreciate it. I am using MMF2 and I am sure you could point me out. Also, how can I play .MP3's for the music? I cant find the extension anywhere. Well I leave you with a sample screenshot from a very EARLY build. This is not the final in anyway besides the Sonic and Tails sprites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesker Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Cool! Reminds me of Sonic One-Shot by Herotokami (Unless thats you with a different name?) (Not in story but in that it's a Sonic Shooter game). I loved that project and this one (Besides not much game wise) looks like it could be pretty awesome too! I suggest at some point either getting robotnick into the mix or for no reason at all have some sort of mechanical attachments to the dinosaurs so that they can shoot lasers at you and such. :X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 This is just... meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USC Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 could use, is some AI for the Dinosaurs. Just simple attacking the player. If anyone could help me I would really appreciate it. I am using MMF2 and I am sure you could point me out. Okay, if you want some really simple AI, here goes. *Use either a counter (values 0 and 1) or a flag (off and on). *While the FIRST flag is off (normal activity)... --------- *Make the dinosaur walk one direction at a certain speed (usually by adding 1 to an X value counter / alternate variable *When that counter equals a certain value, set a NEW flag on, and start subtracting from X value counter *When that counter then equals a certain negative value, set the NEW flag off, and start adding again. This should create a basic "pacing" sequence... ------------- *Compare Sonic's X and Y values to the dinosaur's X and Y values; if Sonic is close enough (and on the same ground level) to the dinosaur, flip that FIRST flag on (attack activity).... --------------- *While that flag is on, have the dinosaur constantly add to it's X value counter if it's behind Sonic, and subtract from the X value if it's in front of Sonic (you'll probably want this to be faster than normal pacing, to create a "charging effect"). *If Sonic manages to out-run it or jump high enough away, set the FIRST flag off, so it'll go back to normal pacing... --------------------------- Does that give you any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tentril Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 have some sort of mechanical attachments to the dinosaurs so that they can shoot lasers at you and such. :X Prehistoric sharks? Anyway, Wesker pretty much said what I thought. I saw that screenshot and thought of Sonic One-Shot, which was awesome. I hope yours is as awesome/awesome-er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdude3 Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Everyone thanks for the support so far and USC, I will try that tomorrow. I just have a small update for those who want to see the dinosaurs. That is all for today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZFG Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Its looking hell awesome, great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USC Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hmm...I forgot to actually give my opinion on this. It's a very original idea, and I can definately see you going in some interesting directions with it (by the way, the very far background...is that from Jurassic Park : Trespassers?). I would tone down the "brightness" of Sonic, Tails, and the plane though...they stick out a bit too much. Of course, you could also brighten up the scenary and dinos some, but that might be a bit more work. Also, here's a quite code example of that AI. It's made in TGF, so I'm not sure if MMF2 can open it correctly, but if so it's fairly simple and should give you a jumping point. DinoAI.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slingerland Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Dino It's A Jungle Dino The Wicked Wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asuma Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Turok + Sonic = Sonrok or Turic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Hog Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Tunic. My only present gripe is that the dinosaurs are lower-resolution than Sonic himself is. Well, and the concept of Sonic with guns, but it sounds like it's being done as a parody (unlike Shadow), so it's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdude3 Posted May 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Tunic.Well, and the concept of Sonic with guns, but it sounds like it's being done as a parody (unlike Shadow), so it's awesome. Don't worry, I am not doing to make sonic "LOL GUNS R COOL" it is just a simple game play mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Hog Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Eh, as long as you don't take the concept too seriously, I don't plan on worrying. Pretty much what I was getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeHedgehog Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I've always been kind of adverse to these sorts of ideas. I mean, just because you're a Sonic fan doesn't justify putting Sonic in all sorts of weird situations where he doesn't belong. Don't you think it'd make more sense to put somebody else in there? Sonic hunting dinosaurs with a shotgun is really, really out of place, no matter which way you slice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khorney Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 well, if it's supposed to be surreal, then i guess he's achieved that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesker Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 See: Sonic One-Shot to see if a Sonic shooter works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimensionWarped Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I've always been kind of adverse to these sorts of ideas. I mean, just because you're a Sonic fan doesn't justify putting Sonic in all sorts of weird situations where he doesn't belong.Don't you think it'd make more sense to put somebody else in there? Sonic hunting dinosaurs with a shotgun is really, really out of place, no matter which way you slice it. I disagree. The fact that we are fangaming does mean we can do ridiculous shit with the license without having any responsibilities whatsoever to do justice to the Sonic concept. If that means putting Sonic in a ridiculous setting with weapons, what the hell. What matters is execution. Apparently there is something similar going on with Mario in some Halo-esque universe in another fangame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I like the game idea, this looks nice so far. Also, I may be able to help you with the game after the testing is all over and dealt with. I too am creating a shooter, and may be able to provide some assistance. Perhaps I can PM you a build of the engine so you can see some of my platformer/ shooter experience. EDIT: things you may be interested in which I might be able to help with- *Ammo system, including 2 ammunition counters. one hold the amount of ammo left in your gun magazine, the other for total remaining ammo. This allows for a more modern shooter experience, IMO. *Deals with above, but weapon reloading! It can add more to the game atmosphere when a Dino is running at you and you're backing up trying to reload your weapon and pump some lead in it's face. *Weapon sprites. Well honestly, I haven't done many sprite works in quite some time, but the game engine I have can show you some of my works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazeHedgehog Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I disagree. The fact that we are fangaming does mean we can do ridiculous shit with the license without having any responsibilities whatsoever to do justice to the Sonic concept. If that means putting Sonic in a ridiculous setting with weapons, what the hell. What matters is execution.Apparently there is something similar going on with Mario in some Halo-esque universe in another fangame. I honestly don't want to turn this in to an argument because honestly arguing about whether or not Sonic should shoot dinosaurs is rather silly and inconsequential, but Super Mario Fusion (The Mario game you mentioned) at least plays it up correctly; it does the whole Kingdom Hearts thing. You're still visiting Mario levels, but they are Mario levels made up with Halo graphics (there is also a Megaman World, a Sonic World, and others). You even get a Master Chief suit, SMB3-style, where Mario gets green armor and an orange visor and everything. Sure, Mario picks up plasma rifles and everything, but somehow the way it's handled there seems more natural, sort of a "When in Rome..." sort of deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimensionWarped Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Well, thats what I'm saying. It's about execution. You have to take the concept and make it genuine to the franchise in order to pull it off well. Saying that the Kingdom Hearts-esque way is the correct way? Eh... I think keeping a solid theme is fine too... especially so since it's a fangame and not necessarily trying to be a full-blown 60 hour epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tentril Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Don't you think it'd make more sense to put somebody else in there?. I like where this is going. We need more Fang/Nack fangames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdude3 Posted May 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Look, DW and BlazeHedgehog, I don't think you should argue over a little fangame. My intention is not to make some epic fangame its just a little project for fun. I am not trying to make Sonic a badass with a gun. There is only one gun in the game anyway, its not like hes gonna be using rockets or an AK-47. Look, if you don't want to play the game, don't. No one is making you shell out 60 bucks or anything, its just a little game that you have the CHOICE to download. If you don't like it, don't download it. If you download it and dont like how it is, turn it off. No one is making you play this so please just stop with all this "It dosent look right" its just a fan game. Nothing more, nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimensionWarped Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I'm not arguing. I'm qualifying. Believe it or not, there is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serephim Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Why are we complaining about this. This looks awesome, and has a better chance of being completed than most of the fangames in production now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I assume since there will only be one gun my assistance will not be needed at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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