LarkSS Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 No, it's not OMG HELP ME! urgent, it's more, urgent as in stopping some little children convincing everyone that my game is dead. I was banned from the SSMB and some stupid mod thought it'dbe a good idea to lock my game topic even though it was regulary recieving posts despite the fact I'd been banned (people on MSN were updating the topic for me). Now some little kids have been spreading rumors that my game is gone forever and now, suddenly around 5 MORE SONIC RPGS HAVE APPEARED. All in RMP Maker 2K3, which, might I add is illegal. Hence the reason I switched to XP, which has proved to be far superior to 2K3 anyway. This silly little child also has the decency to call the graphics terrible LOL (look at the current screenshots for what the graphics used to look like, also Super-Mini mode sprites, they fit into 2K3). I was using almost 100% custom everything, this person is using DEFAULT sprites and sprites taken from the unofficial official RM2K3 website and they have the decency to call my graphics terrible. Thats why I need someone to post a link to this topic in their topic, to stop the rumors that have been spread and to teach this little gimp a lesson. Ah, I see. You need someone to post a link to this thread and say, "Owned". That'll teach 'em a lesson. Or you can go head to head STH3&K with them online and kick their arse. ( It's an idea... ) Edit: Oh, and may I say copying someone's idea does not grant them permission to mock your game. The fact they copied off of yours obviously means they were inspired by it and were so jealous they had to make their own and attempt to out-do you. ( In which they failed miserably ) Also, I thought you weren't allowed to put fangame topics on SSMB... ( Or is that just Sonic Cage Dome, I'm not too sure ) Back on topic (sorry about that rant, I just can't stand people mocking my game when their game is far inferior, jelousy I think it's called), should I retexture the object sprites for this game, giving them a 3D-ish feel to add depth to the graphics? Unlike RM2K3, XP does not have a limited pallete so 3Dish sprites could easily be imported into XP. Obviously I wouldn't texture every sprite, just things like plants and such. Let's see, 3Dish sprites. I dunno. You see, it might not be right for 2D sprites to have a 3Dish environment around them. I never did approve of that with Sonic Battle, as cool as it seemed to have a 3D battlefield on the gameboy. I think it really depends on how it comes out looking. If it matches the game and doesn't make things look out of place, then go with it. ( And I was hoping XP didn't have pallete limits since I never did make the Advanced characters pallete correct to the RPG pallete. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor-J Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Ah, I see. You need someone to post a link to this thread and say, "Owned". That'll teach 'em a lesson. Or you can go head to head STH3&K with them online and kick their arse. ( It's an idea... ) Oh how I wish I could...I'm going to ask a good freind of mine (who has been an SSMBer since september) to go and PWN those backstabbers. The fact that one of the people who "dissed" my game was originally posting comments like "Wow if only SEGA had people like you then we'd stop getting trash like Shadow The Hedgehog" in my topic. Let's see, 3Dish sprites. I dunno. You see, it might not be right for 2D sprites to have a 3Dish environment around them. I never did approve of that with Sonic Battle, as cool as it seemed to have a 3D battlefield on the gameboy. I think it really depends on how it comes out looking. If it matches the game and doesn't make things look out of place, then go with it. ( And I was hoping XP didn't have pallete limits since I never did make the Advanced characters pallete correct to the RPG pallete. ) Stuff the pallette, it's for people who can't be bothered to make their own colours, on MFZ I got about five people posting sprites that used based colours, not pretty... As for the textured sprites, I've just scanned in the hand-drawn sprites, I'll advance style one and retexture one and you tell me which you prefer. Below is a double post that has been automagically merged into the original. I suck at retexturing sprites... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarkSS Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Don't say you suck when you're better than me. =P Looks good. Go with it. =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 What did you do to get banned? And I don't really think it's urgent to let people know your game isn't dead. Just release a demo when you can. That's proof enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarkSS Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 I was actually just about to ask the same question Rael. And that's true now that I think of it. Make the demo first and then post a link. That'll shut them up right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor-J Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Don't say you suck when you're better than me. =P Looks good. Go with it. =) You sure? I prefer the advance one myself. Meh, I'll try them both out in-game and say which ones look best when I have a chance. I might be able to get some screens done in under an hour actually. Depends how quick I finish these sprites. (the hand-drawn ones from earlier) Below is a double post that has been automagically merged into the original. Meh, the reason I was banned is because this guy was flaming me via PMs so I flamed him back, then he sent me a link to a porn site saying he had been making fun of me (I had no idea what the link contained at the time) so I sent the link back telling him to get a life and he reported me when it was him who started everything in the first place. We both got permabanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 [qimg]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3959/texturetest9zz.png[/qimg]I suck at retexturing sprites... Yeah. What, did you run it through photoshop? Don't use photoshop for retexturing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone2040 Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Hrmm... I had a go at fixing a few things on the flower. The lightsource was contradictive at some points, so I just had it come from above. (The bottom part of the flower is just recoloured with more 'natural' colours). Because of the way I coloured, it's probably no longer in advance style though. Since I don't use black for the outlines very much. Edit : there are now two versions of the recolour, because I think version 1 doesn't have enough contrast on the blue leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Looks much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tapika Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 No, it's not OMG HELP ME! urgent, it's more, urgent as in stopping some little children convincing everyone that my game is dead. I was banned from the SSMB and some stupid mod thought it'dbe a good idea to lock my game topic even though it was regulary recieving posts despite the fact I'd been banned (people on MSN were updating the topic for me). Now some little kids have been spreading rumors that my game is gone forever and now, suddenly around 5 MORE SONIC RPGS HAVE APPEARED. All in RMP Maker 2K3, which, might I add is illegal. Hence the reason I switched to XP, which has proved to be far superior to 2K3 anyway. This silly little child also has the decency to call the graphics terrible LOL (look at the current screenshots for what the graphics used to look like, also Super-Mini mode sprites, they fit into 2K3). I was using almost 100% custom everything, this person is using DEFAULT sprites and sprites taken from the unofficial official RM2K3 website and they have the decency to call my graphics terrible. Thats why I need someone to post a link to this topic in their topic, to stop the rumors that have been spread and to teach this little gimp a lesson.Back on topic (sorry about that rant, I just can't stand people mocking my game when their game is far inferior, jelousy I think it's called), should I retexture the object sprites for this game, giving them a 3D-ish feel to add depth to the graphics? Unlike RM2K3, XP does not have a limited pallete so 3Dish sprites could easily be imported into XP. Obviously I wouldn't texture every sprite, just things like plants and such. HOLD ON BUD, I CAN DO IT! THOSE DAMN FUKIN KIDS BETTER BELIVE IT, THERE GONNA GET PWND! ...Sowwy if any kids that arent those 5 kids heard that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael0505 Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 NO TAPIKA DONT BE A HERo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarkSS Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Yeah.What, did you run it through photoshop? Don't use photoshop for retexturing things. Hey, it wasn't all bad. You have to admit it's slightly more pleasing to the eye than the non-textured one. Hrmm... I had a go at fixing a few things on the flower. The lightsource was contradictive at some points, so I just had it come from above. (The bottom part of the flower is just recoloured with more 'natural' colours).Because of the way I coloured, it's probably no longer in advance style though. Since I don't use black for the outlines very much. Edit : there are now two versions of the recolour, because I think version 1 doesn't have enough contrast on the blue leaves. Whoa, an advanced style retexture. Very nice looking. I'd go with that Sonic-Blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor-J Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Tapika- Forget it, I'll wait until the demo release. Someone2040- thanks alot, the flower you did was much better, I'll definatly use it. Rael- I "attempted" the retexture in MS Paint, I've never seen a tutorial for it before so I just whitened out the areas which I wanted textured and pasted the flower over a googled photo. However after browsing Sonic Vegemite this morning (UK morning) I saw that there are multiple tutorials for it ; Someone2040's sprite is rather sexeh though so I might retexture some of the other sprites, heres what I've got so far- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarkSS Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 My god your tree pawns any attempted I tried at sketching one. Just make the trunk go down a little lower. The flowers are nice too. Do you think you can give the flower to the right a spinning animation or is that not possible in RPGMaker? Oh, and about the retexturing, I actually already knew how to do that from playing gens games and seeing how they do it. Thing is though, if I was using a high amount of colors I wouldn't make it dotted for color fades. You can tell by the way I did the hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor-J Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 My god you tree pawns any attempted I tried at sketching one. Just make the trunk go down a little lower. The flowers are nice too. Do you think you can give the flower to the right a spinning animation or is that not possible in RPGMaker? Spinning flower is possible yes, although I'd rather not make that flower animated as the petals arn't equal sized and it'd just look wrong...I'll make an equal sized one. I'll fix it all up and post the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarkSS Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 That's awesome. Can't wait to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone2040 Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 El Palm Tree? This was more difficult. I'm not really satisfied with how it looks... but it's harder to do this than the flower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarkSS Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Too awesome, but I believe he was going to do an edit to the palm tree first. Also, the lowest leaf ( or whatever it is ) gets cutoff. I'm really amazed by your work though. I wish I had skills like that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor-J Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 ZOMG! How can you colour that good so quickly!? Anyways- I gave both flowers animation frames and made the trunk longer. I'll get to work on some more sprites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarkSS Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 This was more difficult. I'm not really satisfied with how it looks... but it's harder to do this than the flower. You gotta be kidding. It looks fine. You shouldn't bring yourself down on your work. Sure there's always room for improvement, but you don't have to be like OMG my work sucks when clearly it doesn't. Sorry about that, but I couldn't help it. =P The animations look good Sonic-Blitz, but I can't help but notice how the third frame of the top flower looks so... strange. The second frame also looses 2 of its pedals. Maybe if I saw it in motion I might think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor-J Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Like so? It looks dodgy because the top and bottom petals never move, they're different sizes to the other ones so it would really bad. Of course if anyone wanta to fix it, be my guest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone2040 Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 I think this looks a bit better. The problem is, you didn't have a frame where the behind petals were coming out. It went straight to 45degree, then going back into the flower. Still looks a bit weird though. Maybe if the leaves on the sides flapped or something, to make it look more animated it might work. It also looks a bit odd, because the behind petals seem to come from nowhere. They're just suddenly there. Maybe if all the petals spun, but I dunno. Edit : Actually ignore this post. I think I see what you were trying to do, and it's not what I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarkSS Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Oh, I like yours much better. And about animating it more, this is what I think. What if the stem of the flower bounced slightly left and right. Then every time it does that little bounce the leaves would slightly move. ( And when I say bounce, I mean almost like a wiggle ) I think that would make it look much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor-J Posted June 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 ( And when I say bounce, I mean almost like a wiggle ) Plants can wiggle? I think you're on the right track there Someone2040, I can't animate things for peanuts... Anyway I said I'd give screenshots today and I'm a man of my word so here ya go- Ooh Sonic at the beach... (I hate captioning things) Sonic vs himself, I've not completed any other battle sets yet. Sonic gives himself a well deserved smack...possibly. I'm not even captioning this one. Anyway, soem flaws I've found so far- During a battle half of the character sprites opacity is lowered. The death animation plays whilst casting. The resolution on the Sonic Menu Theme is horrendous... I can fix all of this in time for the demo release. All sprites (bar Sonic and Metal) in these shots are default and WILL be removed. Everything has been resized for some reason as well, DAM YOU PHOTOBUCKET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarkSS Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Plants can wiggle? Plants can spin and flap their leaves? Ooh Sonic at the beach... (I hate captioning things) Dirty beach. And I guess metal Sonic decided to join him. Irony is, both of them don't do well around water. =o Sonic vs himself, I've not completed any other battle sets yet. What's that to the right, an after-blur? Sonic gives himself a well deserved smack...possibly. I believe he derserves two, and maybe a kick too... I'm not even captioning this one. Whoo, big tall grassy place high in the sky. I also see there's a river that most likely never runs dry regardless that there's no water supply. Everything has been resized for some reason as well, DAM YOU PHOTOBUCKET Uh, use .png dude. And if that doesn't work, lower the quality of the pic a tad bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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