Perfect Chaos Zero

Did anyone notice the "minecraft world'"? That shit made my day!

Did you bring booze? You better of brought booze.

Note: I don't get birthday threads usually and I'm a fucking admin. Who actually checks the calender for that crap?

See, what you guys aren't realizing is that Pedro's Brazillian ass is so god damn poor that this would be a clear and obvious improvement on whatever he's currently wiping his ass with (probably banana leaves or some shit). Clearly this is actually a compliment distorted by cultural socio-economic barriers. If you really want him to shut up, send his ass (litterally) a roll of charmin or some shit. That, ladies and gents, is how acid humor is done btw.

I think there was a break down of communication possibly due to the means that I was using to ask? It's entirely possible skype's pm system is wonky (I've sent SS several concerning this matter via skype with no reply). That said, the announcement may of jumped the gun a bit and may of been worded just a few notches incorrectly to the left to make it seem like we were blaming retro, we weren't. I don't think that was the goal here so let's all chill out a sec. I wasn't even around when it was made hahah! Sorry I'm late to the party folks, I've been in Las Vegas (quite excellent btw) for the past week or so and thus have been incommunicado while said announcement was made. I think this can be patched and fixed right on up no problem once we get things a bit more sorted. SS, get in contact with me/I'll try to get in contact with you, we'll drink some tea spiked with liberal amounts of liquor and we'll figure this shit out in a more appropriately awesome manner rather than this trippin' balls bullshit that's goin' down and everything will be all groovy. Not that hard to post a retraction announcement that "corrects" any statements previously mentioned that may of been incorrect or anything. No respect was intended I assure you. I'm thinking that it's possible with Retro's recent issues, I somehow got removed from the special forum we were discussing this shit in and skype was being retarded perhaps, thus causing this entire situation in the first place. Let's get together and talk this out, no reason to trip, ya' know?

DNL, I can tell it to you rather straight, you're only 14 dude. Quite frankly? Everything in your life that's happening to you now or any time soon or even in the past isn't going to matter at all one tiny bit in about 3 or 4 years. It will be so insignificant, meaningless, unimportant, dumb and pointless that it's not even an issue and you probably won't even remember most of it. So don't worry about it bro, just wait it out and new shit will be on the horizon before you know it. If that doesn't help you feel better, well, I have another piece of advice. When I was your age I was pretty depressed, had some social problems even. I started doing something and all that changed, I was happy, popular, had good times, met and dated a lot of girls and really ended up having the best time of my life. A lot of people who don't know what they're talking about may condemn me for this because of their moral bullshit or that they think it leads to so and so or is bad or whatever. I can tell you that in my experience that simply isn't the case, so people can hate me for advising you to do this but... Start smoking weed bro. Seriously. Not even kidding. Smoking weed has done more good for me than I could ever begin to define. Just don't get caught. Be smart about it. Get a lock box if you ever decide to start keeping some of it and any paraphernalia in your room, lock it up, hide it, make sure it's always put away, never do dumb shit that'll get you in trouble with the cops or parents and use eye drops. It's incredibly easy, I never got caught once and have yet to to this day. You can listen to the propaganda and the people who've been brain washed by it going on and on about how bad it is, or, you can try it for yourself and see if it doesn't change your perspective a bit. Here's a comedy bit that sums up my feelings on this issue quite nicely and ought to put a smile on your face at the same time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWhUqo9Aivs

SAGE is coming along but the fact is, we need more people and more help making this project awesome. That being the case, I'm putting out the call to you, my fellow SFGHQers for help! Want to join the SAGE team? Great! Here's what we need right now: Web design dudes -Java, PHP, flash and html experience are all things we're looking for, if you have skills in any of these things, let us know! Graphics/Arts dudes -Buttons, awesome pictures, stuff like that, we need it all. Contact us if you think you can design graphics that fit well on a web site! Smart mother fuckers -This one's vague and the hardest to pull off, but if you really think you're the clever, charismatic sort that we need, say something! We need guys like you too! One guy with web space that is highly configurable -Help us offer hosting for game/booths and a project management ftp for great justice. The ability to set up multiple FTP accounts with a variety of access privileges for multiple people is a must. If you fit one or more of these categories, post in this thread AND send me a PM. If I feel you're the kind of dedicated person we're looking for, I'll get ahold of you. As a side point, if you're serious about this, get download skype and get yourself an account because that's what we're holding out meetings on. That said, if you don't get accepted or invited or it takes a while, don't wig out or take it personally, it may be we found someone else that fits what we need first or it may be that we just haven't gotten to you yet. Stay cool and things will be all gravy. Don't get impatient. So, that said, please, if you think you can help and have the skills, let us know.

...what? Why would you do that? I'm not saying you're a retard but dude, don't be like this guy: http://www.lolbot.net/pix/5452.jpg Don't do that. It doesn't look cool. =/

I'm pretty sure he was talking about the type of particle effects you posted, which differ from his. You seem kinda haughty considering he was giving you some pretty good advice. Mayhaps you should consider taking said advice and post shots of those.

Michael Jackson had that once, he wasn't a big fan.

That's some trippy shit you got going there LH. The whole thing reminded me of this movie scene, haha: http://player.vimeo.com/video/1323655 That's a fucking epic looking super sonic. Think the top quill needs a little refinement but other than that, it's amazing.

Said demo still doesn't work by the way. =/

How about I hook up something even cooler than that: http://pc0.sepwich.com/SFG/Museum/Sprites/ Boom, the entire original SFGHQ sprites section from 2005 and before. Not only does it show all the content, but yes, all the downloads are working. Everything in that "museum" is fully accessible and functional just like it was when it was originally part of the site. That means you can download any of those sprites from there. How's that?

#srb2 kinda died off. This chat is actually run in partnership between Retro AND SFGHQ (I'm an SOP for example) as a collaborative effort. So this is more like the original #sfghq chat we had long, long, ago, but with the backing of Retro's large user base. So it's actually pretty active during the afternoon hours.

Fuck if I know, that's where they put in. NOW, FOR THE FINISHING TOUCH! I'm going to copy paste what I wrote in Sonic Retro's equivalent of this topic because I'm extremely tired from spending 7ish hours on sorting all this shit and I just don't have it left in me to write an original post for both sites so I'm, for the most part, going to write one and post it on both forums, so here we go: Now for the finishing tough, the binned games. Most of these are crap, they were trashed. HOWEVER, at the same time there's some REALLY interesting concepts present in them that could perhaps be used to make some awesome fan games. When I say that, note that I am staring directly at Sonic Infinity when I say that. I mean, High Speed Megaman? Jesus Christ, who wouldn't enjoy that? While I was at it I dug up some old bits and pieces. Who remembers this? How about this one? Looking back on it now, Rlan was into some trippy shit when he was running SFGHQ. I love it! Anyway, ON WITH THE SHOW! Next up, we've got our old school binned fan games. Same stuff mentioned before applies, but keep in mind this stuff was probably binned for a reason, so it's not the place to look for greatness, but for really cool concepts that never got made. Here's the list of the binned games, in alphabetic order, with comments of course: Hidden Palace Zone Hidden Palace Zone Act 1 and 2 Knuckles Power Quest (POWER quest) Manic Man Sonic RPG (Cool in a gauntlet sort of way Not very developed tho) Manic The Hedgehog (lol sonic underground) Sonic 2 The Lost Levels Sonic 3D XMas Sonic Adventure (more original names) Sonic And Chaos Sonic and Silver Sonic (He predicted Sonic 2K6) Sonic And Tails Sonic Crazy Cabbie (old version) Sonic Epoch (olllld version) Sonic Exciter Sonic Ice 2 Sonic Infinity Xmas (Engine is super broken BUT check it out for the awesome sprite and cool concept) Sonic Quest Sonic Robo Blast 2 2D (hahaha speaks for itself) Sonic Robo Ranger Saga (lol) Sonic Smash Sonic Stadium (not the website) Sonic Time Crisis Here's the link 1337 skeet peoples: http://pc0.sepwich.com/SFG/bin.rar Now for the OTHER awesomeness of this post. What, you thought I was done already? PFFFFFFTT, no way! First of all, we got the COMBINED FAN GAME LISTING here: http://pc0.sepwich.com/SFG/list.txt Now I bet you guys are wondering, "But PC0, why would that come in handy". Well you see gentle peoples, since I figure you all might not wanna download EVERY fan game necessarily, or maybe, you want to link your pal to a specific, one, I've uploaded a catalog of every fan game featured in these previous packs for direct download as a directory listing for each category. Here's the links people, enjoy: Demos: http://pc0.sepwich.com/SFG/Demos Full Games: http://pc0.sepwich.com/SFG/Full%20Games Binned Games: http://pc0.sepwich.com/SFG/Bin These contain individual RARs of every single sonic fan game featured in the previous packs, packaged individually for your convinence. I've still got some odd bits and bobbits floating around in this old Sonic 2K5 database, so if there's any demand left for them after this ridiculously huge archive dump, I might even post a few odd old fan games you guys have never seen before, ones that didn't quite make it to the SFGHQ website either.

You think the last one was it? Well watch this shit. BOOM! Here comes the "completed" games from 2005! Here is the complete listing of all 97 entries in the full games pack, in alphabetical order and including comments: Chaos Chaos Battles Chaotix 2 Crazy Cabby Sonic Hidden Palace King of Mobius Knuckles Blast Knuckles Christmas Knuckles Millenium Knuckles Millenium 2 Knuckles Racer Knuckles Ring Rush Little Chaos Metal Sonic Quest Metal Sonic Quest Special Edition Metal Tails Neo Sonic Boom Neo Sonic Universe Nights Adventure Omni Khaos Robotniks Rebellion AKA Revenge Rotor Boom Search for Knuckles Sonic And Friends 2nd Edition Sonic Avalanche Sonic Bible Adventure (Fan favorite for being hilariously bad) Sonic Boom Sonic Brick Sonic Chaos (another from the maker of chaomega) Sonic Chaos 2 (another from the maker of chaomega) Sonic Chaos Strikes Again (maker of chaomega - title screen may cause seizures) Sonic Christmas Sonic Dead Zone Sonic First One Standing Sonic Flight Sonic Fun Zone Sonic FX Sonic Infinity Halloween Edition Sonic Island Chaos Sonic Island Chaos Sonic Kilk & Play Collection Sonic Madventure Sonic Maze Mania Sonic Mega Quest Sonic Pinball Mania Sonic Pong Sonic QTE Sonic QTE 2 Sonic Robo Blast (The COMPLETED Original) Sonic Robo Blast 2 Halloween (Also technically a demo but whatever) Sonic Robo Blast Christmas Edition Sonic Search Sonic Stash Sonic Super CD Sonic S-V Sonic Tennis (Made by SRB2 creator AJ Freda - might be his first fg - 2 player) Sonic The Fast Revelation Sonic Thirdscape (PLAY THIS - Hand drawn everything- Epic for its time) Sonic Thirdscape 2 (PLAY THIS TOO) Sonic Thirdscape Xmas Special Sonic Time Attacked (Fuck yeah) Sonic Ultra Sonic Ultra 2 Sonic Ultra and Robotnik Sonic Ultra Compilation Sonic Ultra The Return Sonic Ultra The Return DELUXE Sonic Wars Sonic World 2 (Not Sonic Worlds) Sonic World 3 (Still not Sonic Worlds) Sonic Xmas Sonic Xtreme Sonic Y2K Sonic Y2K Unlimited Sonic Y2K XTREME Sonic ZERO Sonichaos (another Aytac game - Use at own risk scanner says virii) Sonichaos Revolution (more Aytac, installer may freeze) Sonights SonKnuck Adventure Special Sonic SRB2 Christmas (this is technically a demo but it was in here so) Super Mario And Sonic Super Mario And Sonic RETURNS Super Mario NWO Super Sonic Quest Tails and The Quest for 100 Rings Tails R Tails Race Tails Rescue Quest Tails The Flight To Flicky Island Tale Of Two Sonics The Arrival of Artemus Ultimate Sonichaos (More Aytac lol) Unfinished Business Video Game Holiday Wood Island Zone Racer Here ya' go brothers and sisters! http://pc0.sepwich.com/SFG/FullGames.rar Enjoy the trip to the past my friends! A lot of these full games INCLUDE the original reviews from 2005 SFGHQ! You can actually read people's opinions on the games from when they were released, to even further your blast to the past! Oh and let's not forget: http://pc0.sepwich.com/SFG/PC0sDLLKit.rar Some of the files in there were found by BRP so special thanks to him! That's for those of you missing any of the needed DLL kits to play these!

Big update for this thread, I've compiled a massive compilation of Pre-2005 SFGHQ demos so anyone who wants them, here's the list and link: 007 Sonic Secret Agent Amys Adventure Amys Bubble Pop BackToTheFloatingIsland Beat Zonic Beyond Sonic Beyond Sonic 2K1 Big Adventure Bunnie Roboticize This CCA ONLY Bunnie To The Rescue Bunnie XTREME Chaomega Chaos Begins Chaotix Missing Clash Brothers (works poorly) Dr Robotnik Rebellion Dragon Trail E102 Emerald Emotion Heart Of The Hedgehog Knuckles 3D Knuckles Non-Pocket Adventure Knuckles vs The Pokemon Legendary Sonichaos list.txt Mario VS Sonic Metal Sonic Adventure Metal Tails Omni Chaos PolySonic Project Mettrix Radical Sonic Return of The Eggman Ring Race Robotnik Full Force Rune The Echidna Sally Quest (The one that doesn't suck) Sally The Quest Sallys Adventure Save Sonic Ses Racer (REALLY bad) Ses The Peacock (hilariously bad) Shadows Past Shen Sonic Silmirllion (funny trailer) Sonic & The Xfiles Sonic 2001 Sonic Adventure (creative naming) Sonic Adventure 2 (more creative naming) Sonic And Ashura Sonic And Friends 2 Sonic And Suckles Sonic And The 7 rings.zip Sonic Apocalypse Sonic Avalanche Sonic Ball (wtf) Sonic Black Magic Trailer Sonic Breakout (controls with mouse) Sonic CD 2 Sonic CD 2 (again) Sonic CD Pocket Delta Sonic Chaos Racers Sonic Chaos Revolution 2 Sonic Christmas Sonic Chudoku Sonic Dash X Sonic Epoch Sonic Fangame (can not find name) Sonic Final Adventure Sonic FLASH Sonic Forever Pack Sonic Gamma Sonic Gamma (again) Sonic Groove Sonic Havoc Sonic Infinity Christmas Sonic Ki Sonic Legacy Sonic Mobius Sonic Next Episode Sonic Nextreme Trailor Sonic Omega Sonic Omega (again) Sonic Parallactic Adventure Sonic PC 2 Sonic PC Blast 2 Sonic Pocket Adventure big version (controls busted I think) Sonic Powers Trailer Sonic Psychotix Sonic Quest Demo Sonic Quest for Chaos Sonic Returns Sonic Robo Blast & Knuckles Sonic Robo Blast (THE ORIGINAL) Sonic Robo Blast TGF Sonic RPG 2 Sonic RPG 2 (cnc version) Sonic RPG.zip Sonic Secrets All in One Sonic Showdown 3D Sonic Slam 2 Sonic Slam Attack Sonic Spinball Millenium Sonic SV2 Sonic The Comic Madness (Great gfx, bad engine) Sonic The Fast Revelation Sonic Time Attacked Sonic Total Chaos Sonic Ultra 3 Sonic Ultra The Return Sonic Velocity Sonic World (not Sonic Worlds) Sonic World RPG Sonic Xplosiv Sonic Xtreme 2D Sonic Y2K Sonic Zero sonicbros Soul Chaos Newbie Escape Sparks The Echidna (lol) Super Sonic Racine Alpha Super Sonic Racing Tails Is Captured Tails Maze Tails The Fox When Tails Gets Bored When Team3 Gets Bored When Worlds Collide http://pc0.sepwich.com/SFG/demos.rar Special thanks to Smidge for hooking me up with a new copy of our old SFGHQ database of stuff. It took me 3 hours to organize the demos and I'm going to be organizing and uploading a compilation of the binned and full games some time soon as well.

It includes everything linked in the original post.

Added to the original post in the thread to include an rar that had all of the packs combined into one big ass thing.

The problem: You don't really have a valid reason for not having a demo to submit to me by now other than procrastination for a brief test run to determine if you're bullshitting or not. Your previous explanation holds no ground with me because as an admin and some one who is pretty neutral and not the type to really give a fuck about anything ever, there's no real reason you shouldn't be able to hand me a confusing mass of bullshit, just so I can make sure you're not full of crap, simply because the game was "in shape" enough for you to take screen caps. How it looks: You're trolling. Even your last post looks like an epic troll attempt and that you're laughing your ass off because I'm still replying and you're not banned yet. The fact that you haven't shown me a demo yet and seem to be stalling implies this even further. Every post you make is just going to make you seem more of a troll until you show me something more solid. The facts: The wise thing to do, would be to send me a jumble of shit just to show that you have a game and that it has some form of physics that you're not currently throwing together as we speak. Take too long, I may still assume you're a troll if the game looks like something that could be thrown together in 2 hours time. As you said, you can see where I'm coming from and how this appears to be trolly, so you understand exactly what I mean when I say your previous post is making it look more so. What you should do if you're not a troll: Do NOT post again in this thread until you have sent me a PM with a demo. Anything else at this point looks trolly as fuck anyway.

See, either you're trolling me even now or you don't understand what proper trolling is. At the risk of being further trolled, because I'm a nice guy, I'll explain for you and those reading this thread that 'don't get it'. If you were trolling, you would intentionally post something like this, making it look intentionally bad, then react like you're totally serious. Followed by proclaiming in some manner that you distrust the clearly sound advice given to you. Then when asked to display further proof you side step it because you don't have any because you're merely trolling with a handful of shopped pics. You would then further infuriate the issue by for example, going on about how you make the games for yourself and you don't care what others think, yet continue to droll on about it to frustrate people in an attempt to generate "mads", from which "lulz" could be derived.

Why does anyone troll? This game, as it stands, looks kinda trolly, that's all I'm saying, as does your general reaction. People have reacted, you have continued a suspicious front that seems reminiscent of a troll game. I say this because I've been in this scene for a very long time and I've seen things similar before and they were rather lame troll attempts. In fact, I think the only people that still remotely visit here anymore that've been around longer than I are maybe Smidge204 (the other head admin aside from myself) and Blaze motherfucking Hedgehog, father of SAGE. (correction, and DIABLO HEDGEHOG, who just posted and whom I missed very much and am glad to see again.) Which is why I offer you the opportunity to simply pm me everything you have now after throwing something together real quick. I'm going to be honest, I'm not going to play the whole thing. But I will be able to make a quick assessment to determine as to whether or not you're bullshitting us. That way, you won't have to worry about everyone seeing EVERYTHING that you want to keep super secret, nor do you have to worry about sending it to someone who'll unveil all your shit to everyone before you're ready. If you've been lurking here as long as you claim, you know who I am and know full well that I wouldn't do that. Not only that, but you'd have the word of one of SFGHQ's primary two administrators backing up the legitimacy of your claims. If I say, "Hey the game is real and it's not bad", chances are most if not all the people on this forum are going to suddenly take your game and claims much more seriously. In short, this looks very troll-esque. Your screens appear very shopped and your commentary seems to support an attempt at trolling. As I said, this looks suspiciously familiar with previous troll attempts. Even LH, who wasn't around for previously mentioned troll attempts that looked an awful lot like this, can see what I'm talking about and is saying, "Damn... that fits together awfully well". I am now offering you the opportunity to prove me wrong. If you're not bullshitting, please show it.

Ok, I reserved my comments, trying to be nice. If you look at the times, this post went up while I was writing my last one. So went around and asked a few people, namely a chunk of the #retro population to confirm my suspicions and everyone agrees. I wanted to make sure I wasn't wrong but 10 people all seeing the same thing doesn't lie. Here's the real truth: You're trolling us and you don't even have a fan game, at all. How do I know? Your screen shots are shopped. Certain shots, like say the one with that whale, show poor blending and appear to be inserted into the shot with a graphics program. Your "after shadow" circles from when Sonic jumps are not consistent and you have 3 different huds in your pics. I tried to give you a shot to show a "demo" as did MANY people before me, yet rather than do so to give a clear definitive end to people's criticisms, you fired off excuse after excuse to not show any real material. With all the aforementioned evidence, I can't help but feel that you don't actually have a fan game at all, but that you simply made "mock up" screen shots in an effort to poorly troll. You made this all up for attention and perhaps a laugh, why else would you act the way you're acting, do the things you're doing, than to troll? It doesn't make logical sense and neither do your screen shots. If it's not a troll, feel free to prove me wrong, but you can't, so kindly gtfo out of my forum or post a demo of some sort, thank you very much.

Well, if it's any consolation, at least your fan game looks a hell of a lot better than Richard Kuta/SonManic's 'fan film' trailer. Lil, welcome to SFGHQ I guess, I'm Perfect Chaos Zero, neighborhood administrator, blah blah, welcome to our board, yadda yadda. Here's the deal bro, cause like right now, you're trippin'. Making fan games to satisfy yourself is great, but don't you think that posting some very suspect screen shots is a little inadequate o build hype for your game if there's no demo? Why is there a demo up "in a little while" and not one right now? Do you not feel that it's "good enough yet" to post or something? Tell you what, if you really have faith in your game, PM me the demo as is, what you have right now, to me. I'm an admin here, I'm rather responsible about this kinda shit, so I'm not going to 'leak' it. Do that and I can tell all these guys how great it is and how they should totally play your real demo when you release it. The thing is, the reason everyone's a bit perplexed is your level tiles look a bit dry bro and quite frankly, some of your screens look a bit... Well let's just say they look suspicious, ya' know? With the way you're acting, quite frankly, I'm kind of perplexed as to what's going on here. So let's sort this out, send me a demo and I'll deliver a real definition of what's going on here. But don't be telling people "Don't judge my game on graphics" when you don't have anything else to judge, it kinda doesn't make a whole lot of sense ya' know?

This is something that could have a huge impact on this community in the future once it becomes developed. From the looks of it, once it's actually working worth a shit, it could very well make MMF2 practically obsolete. I can't wait to see where this project goes.