TailsSena Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Well, I have the PC version of Sonic Generations, obviously through Steam. It ran okay-ish, until I updated my laptop. (The "okay-ish" being the fault of my laptop's i5 GPU.) Now that I'm running Windows 8 CP, Steam itself still runs, but Sonic Generations just shows me a black screen! I've tried it in compatibility mode for Win7, but then I get a phenomenal 5-15fps! (As opposed to 20-50 back when I actually ran Win7.) What to do...? Can anybody come up with a better idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckboy Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 sever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 go back to windows 7. seriously, intel hadn't made good drivers for windows 8 yet, from what I heard. You are better off using 7 until 8 really comes out in stores and everyone makes drivers for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damizean Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Why would you use a beta OS outside of a testing environment (a VM for instance)? Your best bet is to stay with 7, even when 8 comes out: not all vendors upgrade their drivers for new iterations of Windows, so incompatibilities will probably happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Wait, an i5 is just "okay-ish" for Generations? Anyway, why are you even using Windows 8? Drop back down to 7, at least until the final version of 8 comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailsSena Posted June 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Well, I do have another (Desktop) I can use. It's on Vista, but we've got it stable... Thing is I just don't really want to leave Windows 8, it's so nice. I'll just... Not play the game on my laptop until Steam gets an update, then. Anyway, gsoft... It's not the CPU that's the problem, both of my computers have no problems with that, it's that both of them run on integrated GPUs. Thanks for the support, I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serephim Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Beta Operating Systems need anyone say more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luksamuk Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Also why the hell didn't you install Release Preview? (Nevermind. Just figured out why) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimensionWarped Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Wait, an i5 is just "okay-ish" for Generations? Processor is fine. Integrated graphics that come with most i5's are still on the severe low end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailsSena Posted June 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Processor is fine. Integrated graphics that come with most i5's are still on the severe low end. Yup. Quad core CPU @ 2.53GHz == No problems Integrated GPU == Good for videos and emulators, but real games? Nope. EDIT: Got everything ready on my desktop when... This can't be good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serephim Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Integrated graphics... Yeah, definitely not playing this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailsSena Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 And yet on my laptop... Compatibility aside, this would normally (under Win7) get me a shaky 40fps... INTEL, Y U SUCK SO BAD?! Intel, I'm really not seeing what you mean by this... EDIT: I believe my laptop runs the HD2000. All the Device manager will tell me is that I have ~2GB of VRAM. And I know for a fact that Intel no longer supports my desktop's GPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverbounD Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Integrated graphics with a decent processor work alright as long as its still an ATI or Nvidia chipset. Intel integrated graphics are worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailsSena Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Integrated graphics with a decent processor work alright as long as its still an ATI or Nvidia chipset. Intel integrated graphics are worthless. I've noticed. Is it worth ripping the ATI chip/card out of my old (Talkin' 2003/4) laptop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverbounD Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Your going to rip an integrated graphics chip off your old laptop and put it on your new one?... I highly recommend that. Edit: Sorry that was just kind of funny. You can't replace integrated graphics they're part of the motherboard. Everyone should take the above statement to heart though. If you want to play 3D games don't get a laptop without an Nividia or ATI sticker on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailsSena Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Your going to rip an integrated graphics chip off your old laptop and put it on your new one?... I highly recommend that.Edit: Sorry that was just kind of funny. You can't replace integrated graphics they're part of the motherboard. This is a forum. I can't tell if you're being sarcastic through text... EDIT in response to your edit... Not replacing it, rather supplementing it... I know you can do that with a desktop, so what about a laptop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverbounD Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 I don't have much experience replacing parts in laptops. Its my understanding that most of the time its not possible. I'm guessing your laptop doesn't have a PCIe slot but I'm just guessing. Like I said I don't have experience changing or upgrading laptops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailsSena Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 I don't have much experience replacing parts in laptops. Its my understanding that most of the time its not possible. I'm guessing your laptop doesn't have a PCIe slot but I'm just guessing. Like I said I don't have experience changing or upgrading laptops. My old one had a PCI slot, but this one doesn't. I guess it's just too new... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damizean Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 My old one had a PCI slot, but this one doesn't. I guess it's just too new... No, you can't. You would need to hack your motherboard in unimaginable ways, wich would involve you being a genius electronics engineer with a deep understanding of your laptop's circuitry. If you're thinking on using other buses avaiable on your laptop, modern laptops have a PCI Express slot (ExpressCard) but it's bandwidth is far too low to manage a proper graphics card. Same for USB 3.0. tl;dr. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailsSena Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Then can I put it in my Desktop? I did build the whole thing myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damizean Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Then can I put it in my Desktop?I did build the whole thing myself. You would still require to have an engineering title. To be honest, why bother? If your motherboard is semi-modern, your integrated GPU is probably faster than the one of the laptop you want to rip. Instead, why don't just buy a low end graphics card? They are actually pretty cheap and will probably give you far more perfomance than the integrated one. Related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailsSena Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Oh god. I am reminded how miserably I failed at installing my Sound Card... Plugged a power cord into it. Thankfully it did nothing, instead of frying the dumb thing. But the CD it comes with just doesn't work! It doesn't see that I have the thing plugged in, even though Vista itself is all "Oh hey, I see you've installed new hardware, let me suck up all my resources looking for it's software! Good, 'k. I think I'll just crash now." EDIT: Oh, and this is what Windows think of my laptop... If I get such a high score on gaming graphics, then what the FUCK is the requirement for Generations? 10.1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Uh, a little tip about that windows "score" bullshit: It's worthless. Disk speed is almost always the lowest score (unless you got an SSD), and using this so called score as a reference won't be helpful at all. Also, an integrated card is enough for snazzy Aero window effects, but not a rather complex game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailsSena Posted June 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Uh, a little tip about that windows "score" bullshit:It's worthless. Disk speed is almost always the lowest score (unless you got an SSD), and using this so called score as a reference won't be helpful at all. Also, an integrated card is enough for snazzy Aero window effects, but not a rather complex game. I noticed. All of that... Why, SEGA, why... Oh well. I'm gonna try and play it anyway. But this time, fiddling with Power Settings... Fun... EDIT: Oh, yes. This will be fun. I am indeed trying to kill my computer at this point. EDIT2: Oh, what the actual fuck?! It's running flawlessly, and I left compatibility off! Oh, yeah. Now that it runs beautifully (for reasons unknown, but I won't complain), I do have one gripe about this game... Classic. Sonic. Controls. Like. Poop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ila Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 No he doesn't, you just suck. (also try selecting a resolution that doesn't end in 75, you'd be surprised) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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