Aerosol Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Where is the coding involved in Private Servers? What exactly has to be coded? It's got me a little confused, you see... edit: Little clarification. I mean private servers like Schthack did for PSO. Apparently there's alot of coding to do with packets and such but...I'm a little lost in understanding whats going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damizean Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Where is the coding involved in Private Servers? What exactly has to be coded? It's got me a little confused, you see...edit: Little clarification. I mean private servers like Schthack did for PSO. Apparently there's alot of coding to do with packets and such but...I'm a little lost in understanding whats going on. Depends on the actual game and server. They're just server emulator, so they gotta do everything a server does: managing players, actions and enemies in the way the client understands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 so how do you go about figuring out what the client understands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damizean Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 so how do you go about figuring out what the client understands? Reverse engineering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorSatyr Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 I like how Kaze's avatar matches his confusion... =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 lol, hush up Aero Dami, could you be a little more specific? I mean, I know how reverse engineering works for say...model viewers. I don't understand how reverse engineering works for a server though. How does someone examine the method a game uses for sending data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serephim Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Basically, unless you have the source for the game itself, it'll be extremely hard to just scratch up a private server for a game. Scthack i believe obtained the Network Server code from somewhere. Highly doubt it was built from the ground up. Im not really sure at all, but i believe all the game servers do is transfer information that simultaneously works with the game engine in order to make the other players and such move. The game creates the characters, and while you control your own character, the server provides your console/pc the information of the other players that are being controlled, along with projectiles, positions, variables, ect ect. The server code basically just controls what info comes in and out of the game. And since the game itself is most likely half dependant on the information from the servers to run correctly, you need the source of the game itself (or extensive knowledge on what the server is looking for) in order to create a server that works correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 hence why Bomberman Online doesn't have a private server? That sucks. I was playing Bomberman Online on my DC the other day and looked for private servers....couldn't find a single one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shadix Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Well, Broomop had something going for a while, not really sure what happened to the project as his domain is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 That's not a bomberman online server. It's an Online Bomberman server. There's a difference, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark the Echidna Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Actually, you can reverse engineer the protocols by observing the communication through a packet sniffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 but say the server is offline already. wouldn't that mean I'm shit outta luck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogueyoshi Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 you could try finding another official server of a different region i suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I'm pretty sure all the Bomberman Online servers are down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damizean Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Then the only way you have left is reverse engineering through disassembly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted May 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 noone's gonna go through all that effort for a Bomberman Online server. Goddamnit. Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asuma Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 There is a Bomerman Private server. It's the same guy who gutted PSO with his hacking tool. Broomp or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shadix Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 That's what I was trying to tell him, but apparently that "Bomberman Online" server wasn't actually a private server for the DC game but rather a client to play online bomberman. I still think that server had support or was intended to at some point. I always thought the PC client was similar to that text-only client they have for PSO ep. 3. Simply a very graphically simple version of the game that has the ability to interact with the server and supports playing with console players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serephim Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I cant decide whether broomop is a retard or a genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted May 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 If it is a Bomberman Online server, I'm not seeing how to connect to it with my DC. I couldn't find information on the site about doing that anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asuma Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I think it's PC only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 That's what I thought...hence it's not a Bomberman Online server. Bomberman Online was DC only... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shadix Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 I cant decide whether broomop is a retard or a genius Why would he be a retard? If it weren't for that hacking breakthrough that inflated PSU's economy I doubt I'd be playing still. Sonic Team like readjusted everything to compensate and now it's as if the economy is actually fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerosol Posted May 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 explain. I never heard about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shadix Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Well, back in the PSUv1 days they managed to exploit the game and found a dupe trick, along with hacking to get unreleased rares and whatnot. ST got the people with the rares, but alot of that duped money stayed in the economy and got distributed beyond the point of help. We personally sat on a meseta goldmine too that Sa, Ila, and I mooched off of for quite a while. When the expansion came out alot of elements of the game changed. Meseta drop amounts rose from like 10meseta to 300meseta per drop. I suppose they felt the mission point system was unfair too because that got changed as well, if you've seen the sizeable difference in MPs between AotI missions and pre-AotI. This convo isn't really for this topic though, so sorry I potentially threw your topic well, offtopic XD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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