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WIP 3 TEST Both now use FMDRIVE for their instruments, aside from the drums and the C'MON sample in the first one.

Devil's March (v2) Untitled WIP 2 brepPpp. Haven't had time for much lately. Also I guess some wannabe PSO scrap, it wasn't eliciting the right vibe although I finally have my hands on a sample I've heard lots in those soundtracks. So I'm gonna either retool the bits I like or start all over again.

Sonic plots have pretty much always sucked aside from the old-school titles I guess (if they qualify as having plot haha). I mean not that the classic titles were some shining paragon of storytelling, but it was always simple enough - Eggman is building a giant Death Star knockoff go stop him. Sonic 3 and Knuckles gave you -just- enough of a hint of progression to make you want to keep going. When I was younger I used to enjoy the stories of Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 and subsequent games, even at a point in my teens when I was like "Sonic 06 is so COOL!" (the darkest period of my life). The thing is now that I've grown older I've formed the opinion that those stories absolutely suck (as well as the games themselves kinda but that's another topic altogether). The writing is poor and incredibly cliche, turning a game about a blue hedgehog who runs fast through a whimsical world into a soap opera. It really wasn't the greatest move - although to its credit Sonic Adventure 1 at least tried to be a mix of that and more real world sensibilities. However things post Sonic 06 haven't been the greatest either. I didn't mind some of the shallow dialogue and stuff from Sonic Colours at first - mostly because I felt it was a nice needed change of pace to have a simple plot and some different character personality traits getting the limelight. While some of it felt forced it was never truly overbearing until we get to the travesty of Lost World and it's completely unfunny, stupidly written plot with the blandest characters this series has seen in a long time. We all complain about getting one crappy new character in a new game but here we are with 6 of them and they all suck. I omit Generations from the list because c'mon let's be honest here it was a game built to be a glorified level select as a tribute to the series' history and I'm pretty sure we all knew that going into it. Sonic Boom seems to be continuing this trend of "horribly unfunny sonic" and I can't tell if I like that better or the melodramatic Sonic because I kinda don't care for both? As for whether or not the games need good plots - sure why not. Why not have decent writing. If you're gonna put it in there you might as well make sure it's good or what is the point? There is definitely a lot you can do with this franchise, none of it has to be deep or complex or on some sort of grand scale just for it to be good - merely it needs to be entertaining. But I am not sure if Sonic Team has the know-how to make this series have a good plot since it's never been one of the series' strong points. I hate to bring it up because I'm not really a huge Mario fan but look at how well those games have done in entertaining the player on a paper thin plot, and when they do inject it with some sort of crazy plot (Paper Mario games for example) they end up being funny and entertaining. Sonic just has this aura no matter the era of trying too hard, although I guess in a sense that's been a part of the character's DNA since day 1 since he was the cooler alternative to what was out there. The series has a real lack of identity outside of its old trademark visual style and nobody knows what the hell to do with it because of that it seems. The thing is they need to just stop trying so hard, stop trying to reinvent the wheel as far the series goes and just hire better writers. I will add though the only writing in the series I've enjoyed consistently is whenever Eggman is involved.

I think they just mean it this time as "not Sonic boom" rather than "return to roots" - which is totally fine by me.

Fuck yeah I like robots. I'll be keeping an eye on this dude!

Don't really have a lot to show so I might as well chuck it in this thread rather than my art thread. That's all I got for now :x

Guitar Demo 1 Guitar Demo 2 I haven't made guitar based demos this polished in a looooooooong time.

Gotta agree with Pedro, gray by itself is a very boring shade to use. However if you want to still get away with having a gray look, you can always slightly tint it towards a certain colour. It will still give the impression that something is either gray or black or white etc, but it will be a lot more visually pleasing. It's why I never really use straight up gray anymore in my work unless the piece particularly calls for it. For example here is a palette from Team Fortress 2 (which I've never played I just know they adhere to this): The bottom on the blue side there we would look at and go "oh that is gray" but it isn't, it is very slightly a yellowish tint. Here is a tutorial I like as well regarding colours - http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm .

The thing I liked about Pixar back then was that they generally were always making new stories, worlds, and characters for people to love. The exception to this being Toy Story which I feel was consistently good across all three movies and thus don't mind, because it had such a strong cast of characters to make it work (plus it is easy enough to have people really relate to). But I mean it just seems like they keep doing sequels or prequels to each of their old franchises and a lot of what they've been doing lately has been so hit and miss. So I'm not sure how I feel about The Incredibles getting a sequel, considering the first one was so good and I'm not sure how a sequel will stack up. I'll stay cautiously optimistic for it - but I kind of feel like Pixar has started becoming increasingly irrelevant and are seriously losing their touch.

This looks pretty rad dude, really glad to see you doing your own thing here!! Can't wait to play it!

I'm all over this shit. I want it - now.

I put out a thing on loudr its cool. Personal faves - Ouroboros, The Worm and The Sea of the Endless Sands. I love all the tracks on it though but those two I like 'cause Ouroboros gives me a PSO vibe and Sea of the Endless Sands is fun. Oh also WIP Menu Screen theme and Title Theme.

ila this is the most beautiful, touching game I have ever played in my life. Edit: also that ending.

I wonder if SEGA will utilize Atlus at all to do some localization for them as well , hopefully it could mean anyway that SEGA will change on their end (though I do admit this is a stretch)

I haven't played this yet, but I gotta commend you on making an original ip here dude. I'll make sure to find some time to play this sometime this week/weekend to give you some feedback, I like seeing original ideas moreso these days just 'cause I'm kind of phasing out of Sonic. Good luck with the game!

Proxy concepts. Switching gears, some Bad Dudes Beware comic WIPS: All I've had the time/energy to do this week :x

If I recall people had critiqued those as well, but you also do need to remember that a fan making a fan game - or a fan making works of any kind really - is that it doesn't have any repercussions on the franchise as a whole. These ideas will never be used or expanded upon in official media (thankfully because man it'd suck if all the porn people draw and write became official haha). Even if it is a sub franchise it is still the only thing we're getting for a bit and that's already been two games in a row now I've got little interest in - so of course I'm a bit peeved. The thing is neither you or I can also tell each other that the designs are 100% good or 100% bad - it all comes down to preferences and ours happen to be different. What you see as good designs for this is registering with me as "awful", but I do admit Tails and Amy are the only ones I don't find incredibly ugly although the general overall style really bothers me. I do admit the tone in some of my earlier posts makes it seem like I too was claiming it to be objectively bad when I should have made it more clear that I found it subjectively bad. This isn't even specific to this game either - I found the Deadly Six to be incredibly boring designs and now I find these to be bad as well. I've hated the writing in the games as of late and the gameplay styles they've been testing out as I've stated before. It's just a long string of many other things that has this franchise moving in directions I don't particularly care for and just because some of us are negative about the changes doesn't mean people should just 'get over them'. It's not like I'm shitting on anyone's parade but my own, feel free to like this game all you want. But whatever, I'm just gonna stop posting in these Sonic threads on here because I don't want to start pissing in everyone's lemonade. I guess its just to be expected when having a negative opinion on the franchise when on a board for said franchise.

Well from a gameplay perspective nothing in the trailer really grabbed me either for what its worth. Not a huge fan of these kinds of co-op platformers anyway. I can appreciate elements as in having more characters again and a few other things - but it's all stuff in a game that has very little appeal for me. Like I said I think I'm just moving past this franchise in general, I'm sure the me about 4-5 years ago would be all over this.

Nah, I am pretty in tune generally with when something won't appeal to me, 9/10 times I'm generally spot on with it and its quite rare that I've ever had to eat my words after something has released. I've been frustrated by this franchise now for a bit so it's gonna take some doing to get me interested again and this definitely isn't helping matters much. We definitely have different tastes concerning this franchise and it's moving in a direction I don't really care for anymore. I'll sit back and just wait for the next game to come along and hopefully wow me. It's a shame because I have fond memories of playing Sonic and I've enjoyed a mix of both classic and modern titles - it's made a mark on me in terms of inspirations so I hate feeling like this. Oh well haha.

The only "getting used to it" I'm gonna be doing is seeing it enough times that it is that it's no longer a shock to me that someone thought it was a good looking design. It's still a bad design in my opinion, and every time I look at it no matter how many times I see it I'm going to think the exact same thing for the reasons I stated above. So far this entire game and cartoon isn't looking like something I'd enjoy (awful dialogue especially this time around holy cow, and I thought Lost World's was bad). By all accounts I want to like Sonic again but between Lost World and this I'm kinda getting disinterested in this franchise haha. I mean by all means enjoy the designs, they're just not for me. All of our tastes in aesthetics are different and whatever.